tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11205223.post115875773319862401..comments2023-10-28T08:43:47.121-02:00Comments on ARmadgeddon: Aberdeen is finally recategorisedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11205223.post-1159273259773401502006-09-26T10:20:00.000-02:002006-09-26T10:20:00.000-02:00Its not the AR or Vendors that Aberdeen con, its e...Its not the AR or Vendors that Aberdeen con, its end users/buyers. It's a dishonest and corrupt business model. <BR/><BR/>And those that support Aberdeen clearly have ethical issues themselves.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11205223.post-1159174982062171582006-09-25T07:03:00.000-02:002006-09-25T07:03:00.000-02:00You're right about IDC, atually we wrote about the...You're right about IDC, atually we wrote about them, META, Yankee and Aberdeen in this post:<BR/><A HREF="http://armadgeddon.blogspot.com/2005/04/yankee-analyst-impartiality-and.html" REL="nofollow"><BR/>Yankee, analyst impartiality and circular references [ARmadgeddon]</A><BR/><BR/>The issue we have is that they give the whole industry a bad name. There's nothing wrong with a good positioning paper, stating why a product/solution might be a good choice within certain parameters. <BR/><BR/>Making a TCO study from 5 customer cases or "validating" a benchmark (see response to Bitter Andy in this post: <A HREF="http://armadgeddon.blogspot.com/2006/09/borg-for-hire.html" REL="nofollow">Borg for hire?</A>) is definitively something else.<BR/><BR/>Probably the worst AR professionals are confronted with is the "if you bought reprints, you probably would get better coverage", which is no better than the Borg tactics of restricting access (limiting briefings to 30 mn, insisting to have only paid subscribers to enquiries, trying to flog more SAS days as briefings) which also equates to pay for play.ARonauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00922816538707505097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11205223.post-1159156949934236462006-09-25T02:02:00.000-02:002006-09-25T02:02:00.000-02:00Give old aberdeen a break... they actually used to...Give old aberdeen a break... they actually used to claim they did "marketing assistance services", so yes, they were coin-operated, but they never claimed to be anything but. Then I see whoring like this:<BR/><BR/>http://download.microsoft.com/download/b/c/1/bc15f052-f970-405f-b691-5d0052410b42/203326Euro.pdf<BR/><BR/>it's companies like IDC who are the real violators of being "pay-for-play" because they claim to be independent, but then take it up the a*s from the highest bidder....<BR/><BR/>Aberdeen might be the perennial analyst whore, but at least they never claimed to be anythng different AND they actually have some decent analysts - just a poor business model (and that pr*ck kastner). not to mention that fool bedard who's taking aberdeen right where he took benchmarking partners....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11205223.post-1159133846686209232006-09-24T19:37:00.000-02:002006-09-24T19:37:00.000-02:00The legendary 'analysts' in the boom who would try...The legendary 'analysts' in the boom who would try to blackmail us into buying 'reports' - 'reports' we could (if we wanted) basically write ourselves are still working there!<BR/><BR/>Duncan, give us all a break - when you sink that low ethically, you don't rise back to the top...<BR/><BR/>They do all real analyst firms a disservice. And when PR firms like yours try to tell buyers differently you end up covered in the same s##t. Enjoy the smell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11205223.post-1158953609438248052006-09-22T17:33:00.000-02:002006-09-22T17:33:00.000-02:00Yes, AD-berdeen. You pay, they write white papers,...Yes, AD-berdeen. You pay, they write white papers, er, AD-vertorials.<BR/><BR/>Duncan, frankly they have a reputation for dollar-addiction, not for independence.ARonauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00922816538707505097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11205223.post-1158952766752051792006-09-22T17:19:00.000-02:002006-09-22T17:19:00.000-02:00"Aderdeen"? Is that your typing? Considering their..."<B><I>Ad</I></B>erdeen"? Is that your typing? Considering their reputation as the advertorial analysts, perhaps that should be their new name.theARprohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14956382182291760074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11205223.post-1158917032980641942006-09-22T07:23:00.000-02:002006-09-22T07:23:00.000-02:00Reports of Aberdeen's death are premature. Nothing...Reports of Aberdeen's death are premature. Nothing suggests that Aberdeen will close as a brand or turn into a direct mail company. Where on earth do you get this stuff from? Lighthouse has no special feelings for Aberdeen, but we not that their business model has changed; see <A>http://analystrelations.blogspot.com/2006/02/research-suggests-karma-beats.html</A>. It's not our opinion that Aderdeen is rising in influence: that is the finding of a massive international survey; see <A>http://analystrelations.blogspot.com/2006/06/vendors-name-rising-analysts-forrester.html</A>. Unlike others, we don't make this stuff up.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09928097253763852232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11205223.post-1158762563924234932006-09-20T12:29:00.000-02:002006-09-20T12:29:00.000-02:00Glad to see the back of them! Stuffing direct mail...Glad to see the back of them! Stuffing direct mail would be a better use of their 'analyst' time...<BR/><BR/>Hope the rest of the analysts for hire go down the pan too....F&S, Butler etc<BR/><BR/>Hey whats the chances Duncan will post something here telling us we are all wrong, and they were really a very nice firm???? :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com